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1969 DS1 saved!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:50 pm
by mstraus2002
Brought home a 1969 DS1 a few weeks ago. Had been sitting in a back yard in Corpus Christie for 20 years! Got it off ebay for $10! Saving up my pennies to get new spreaders and brackets and new halyards. Everything else looks to be in good shape. I sail mostly around East Texas: Lake Holbrook, Lake Palestine, and Lake Texoma. Looking to take it to Central Texas some this summer.

Re: 1969 DS1 saved!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:30 pm
by GreenLake
Welcome to the forum. I'm sure your fellow DS sailors from Texas are going to stop by this thread pretty soon.

Re: 1969 DS1 saved!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:15 pm
by jeadstx
Welcome to the forum. I've been following your posts on Facebook about your boat. I was wondering what part of the state you sailed. Looks like it is a good find.

If you get the boat down to Canyon Lake, let me know. We just formed a fleet there and there are three of us that would sail our boats with you more than likely.

John

Re: 1969 DS1 saved!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:58 pm
by kokko
Have you got a sail and hull number?

Re: 1969 DS1 saved!

PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 1:40 pm
by druidae1492
I rescued a 1965 last fall. She was in sad shape. But I just wanted to fix her up. I like sailing her and will keep this one for myself. I named her Freyjanna and she is the fastest boat I have ever sailed. :) I'd post a nice picture, but it doesn't seen to allow me to. Freyjanna looks nice now and sails well too. She is rigged with the taped aluminum mast by Proctor and has a roller boom and reef lines too. The Entire HIN is 101791786 and I am a little confused about the number. Is the Sail number 1786 and the hull number 10179?

Re: 1969 DS1 saved!

PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 6:36 pm
by jeadstx
I now have the 1969 Day Sailer I that mstraus2002 saved from Corpus Christi.

kokko, the hull number is 17877, sail number is 3229.

The boat is in great shape other than needing to have a set of floorboards built. I posted some pictures in another thread.

John

Re: 1969 DS1 saved!

PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 6:38 pm
by jeadstx
druidea1492, welcome to the forum.

John

Re: 1969 DS1 saved!

PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 7:35 pm
by GreenLake
druidae1492 wrote:I rescued a 1965 last fall. She was in sad shape. But I just wanted to fix her up. I like sailing her and will keep this one for myself. I named her Freyjanna and she is the fastest boat I have ever sailed. :)

Nice!
druidae1492 wrote: I'd post a nice picture, but it doesn't seen to allow me to.


See the "How to use this forum..." section for the thread on how to post pictures -there are several options. All require that you resize your photos a bit, but you can find suggested techniques.

druidae1492 wrote:Freyjanna looks nice now and sails well too. She is rigged with the taped aluminum mast by Proctor and has a roller boom and reef lines too. I do not see a HIN # but the Sail number is 10179. :)


A 1965 boat would have had a small builder's plaque, long lost by now, but a sail number that is much lower than 10179. (Sail numbers reached 1500 in 1963). There used to be a hull number that was calculated per builder, not per boat type in those years and that may or may not have been in that range - however, if your sails have those numbers, they are most probably used. Sometimes state registration papers list the sail number.

Check out the "History" section of the forum.

Re: 1969 DS1 saved!

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 12:25 pm
by druidae1492
I could easily be wrong about the "sail number." The sails were bare save the DS. I got the number from the Bow where I read that it should be just under the rub-rail on the Starboard Bow. 10179 is stamped into the glass and gell-coat. This was put there when the hull was made. I'll go look into the "How too' and see about posting a picture. There are a lot on facebook as I am proud to have fixed her up. What a fun boat! If you care to check it out, my Facebook is under the name David John.

Re: 1969 DS1 saved!

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 12:32 pm
by druidae1492
I just got to thinking and went to read the Registration (title still off with the title transfer folks but should be coming along shortly.

The HIN number on the Registration says 101791786. I know I read somewhere how to find the sail number in there somehow, but dang me if I can remember any of that. I assume you do though. :) Is it the last 4 digits maybe? And if so, why the 10179 on the Bow?

David

Re: 1969 DS1 saved!

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 3:02 am
by jeadstx
The sail number is probably 1786. The number that would have been on the ID plate would have been stamped in two boxes below the O'Day name and address. The first box/space is the hull number 10179, second box/space is the sail number 1786.

This is about how your ID plate would have looked.

John

Re: 1969 DS1 saved!

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 11:20 am
by GreenLake
1786 would seem to be a reasonable sail number for '65.

Re: 1969 DS1 saved!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:16 am
by druidae1492
Thank you Green Lake and Jeadstx.
There are lots of videos of These boats racing around, many of which are DS-I and have what must be the Hull number on the sails, (5 digits), while others have only 4 so must be the Sail number? I'll add 1786 to my new main's'l when I get it. :)

Re: 1969 DS1 saved!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:35 pm
by jeadstx
The 5 digit sail numbers you see on some sails are because those boats are of more recent manufacture, since they are still being built. I've heard there are somewhere around 16,000 (more or less) Day Sailers, the Day Sailer I being the only one still in production. This can cause confusion with the older 5 digit hull numbers. In the old numbering method, the addition of the class (sail) number completes the boat ID number.

I'm having a similar problem with my 1969 Day Sailer I. I know the class (sail) number (4 digits; #3229) from the two sets of sails I have, one set original to the boat. My 5 digit hull number shows up on the title, but my data plate has long since gone missing. Texas does not want to register the boat without a rubbing of the ID plate. I'm currently looking for where they etched the hull number on the boat to get a rubbing there if it exists or I can find it.

There is a list on the forum (thread: DS1 Design Changes) that shows changes over the years to the DS I boats. One of the columns show hull number and class number. Although my boat is not listed, the list shows hull and class numbers in the range of what my hull number shown on the title and the corresponding sail number should be. My interest in the class number (which I do know) is more for finding others with the same vintage boat if I do have questions during restoration.

On the forum, someone saw the class number of my Day Sailer II (8075) and wrote me because he had 8074. My boat was originally from Florida before it found it's way to Texas via Louisiana, his boat was in Florida all the time. Our boats my have been sold by the same dealer. Just interesting to know as far as I'm concerned.

Enjoy your boat.

John

Re: 1969 DS1 saved!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:31 am
by GreenLake
A '69 may not have a second hull number etched into the boat. That scheme of indelible hull numbers seems to have been introduced with the modern HIN in the early '70s.