Self Bailer for DSII replacement

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Self Bailer for DSII replacement

Postby Tipster1 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:22 am

I finally removed old Depersia bailer from my 1975 DSII. It was a corroded mess. I used a Dremel grinder to cut off the retaining nut, knocked off the bottom piece and then a hacksaw blade to cut slots in the lining metal pipe and knock it out. I was able to get a replacement from http://www.SunfishDirect.com. They were familiar with the DS and sold me the longer neck version used on the older Sunfish. It fits perfectly. For those unfamiliar, once bailer is removed there is a solid pipe that runs from cockpit sole (floor) through the bilge to the outer hull. It looked like the gap between the VEE hull and flat bailer was filled with large quantity silicone. Considering that the plastic bailer isn't as sturdy as the metal piece I'd like to fill in the gap with something sturdier. What would you suggest?

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Re: Self Bailer for DSII replacement

Postby GreenLake » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:37 pm

If your goal is to create a flat surface for the bailer to rest against, you could use 3M High Strength Marine filler (or Marine Tex Epoxy) with a stiff plastic sheet to roughly define where you want your new surface. In effect, you'd be building a pedestal. I assume that the height you need is less than 1/4" at the edges, both suggested materials would be good for that. You'd take the plastic off after it's cured and then use a sander, etc. to make it flat and level, with smooth sides. When done, you can use a bedding compound or moderately adhesive caulk (3M 4200) to secure the "dome" of the bailer.

I wouldn't overdo that latter part. If the bailer is indeed fragile, you may have to replace it after a grounding, or whatever, so, don't make it totally non-removable. But with a level platform you shouldn't risk it wobbling.
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Re: Self Bailer for DSII replacement

Postby Tipster1 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:36 pm

Thanks. that's something like what I had in mind except treat bailer with a release agent, fill voids with something like what you suggest and and extra layer to build up laterally. Insert, tighten, and remove excess. Question was material. In past I've used JB Waterweld stick, but it's a bit too stiff for this so I will probably use West system with fairing filler.

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The only time the bailer is grounded is taking off trailer in fall. I probably will just strap on a dolly, since it's not as sturdy as the metal one.
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Re: Self Bailer for DSII replacement

Postby peterbradley » Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:57 pm

If anyone needs a De Persia Self Bailer, I have one. It's yours for free. Depending on where you are, I might have to charge you for shipping.
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Re: Self Bailer for DSII replacement

Postby Fly4rfun » Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:43 am

would it work on a DS1?
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Re: Self Bailer for DSII replacement

Postby Tipster1 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:52 am

Fly4rfun wrote:would it work on a DS1?

Person to ask is Greenlake. I suggest re-posting question under DSI.
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Re: Self Bailer for DSII replacement

Postby Acornrunner » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:33 am

peterbradley wrote:If anyone needs a De Persia Self Bailer, I have one. It's yours for free. Depending on where you are, I might have to charge you for shipping.

I need one have a DS2. Live in Il
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Re: Self Bailer for DSII replacement

Postby Acornrunner » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:34 am

Nice to see what this looks like, the former owner of my DS2 has made the project a bit more complicated for me.
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Re: Self Bailer for DSII replacement

Postby Tipster1 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:12 pm

Acornrunner wrote:Nice to see what this looks like, the former owner of my DS2 has made the project a bit more complicated for me.

Oh my! Can you communicate with F.O.?
Did he just cover the entire thing?
What is on the bottom of your boat?
If the tube connecting the cockpit sole to the bottom is intact, I imagine you could remove this with a Dremel and reinstall DePersia or Sunfish bailer pretty easily.
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