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baggywrinkle wrote:Thanks Tim !
Well I had a hunch she was 'different' when I saw the white part, meaning the cockpit etc. Not complaining, mind you. I like the white part.
Burning question: Does the hull itself seem identical to a DS hull ?
GreenLake wrote:
The way the CB trunk is braced with a vertical thwart is something I've never seen on a DS.
Also, the way the back of the cuddy angles does not look like a DS. Likewise the angle at the top of the hull where it meets the side decks. I would expect that angle to be closer to 90 degrees - it's hard to go by visual memory because all standard DS boats have a rubrail there.
While it might be possible for an owner to have removed the rubrail and its supporting flange, that seems unlikely.
Altogether, there's a good chance that this is one of the DS clones (or close competitors).
Can you do a precise measurement of the length and beam?
TIM WEBB wrote:That is because the DS1, even the current boats being built by Cape Cod Shipbuilding, use a lever for the CB, whereas the DS2 (and DS3 I believe) use a cable/line uphaul/downhaul system, which has its own set of "issues".
But again, your lever doesn't resemble any DS1 lever I've ever seen, but it *does* have the square pin. The CB size and shape would be the same for the DS1 and DS2, but the DS1 CB would have a square hole to accept the lever pin, whereas the DS2 CB has a round hole to accept a pivot bolt or pin.
baggywrinkle wrote:Thanks Tim !
Yes I read about jamming cables and bungee remedy. I'm OK with simpler ways.
So I have a non-DS CB handle styled after DS1 type handle. Cast in bronze. I wonder how many sisterships this vessel might have, because production comes to mind, considering the molded cockpit/bulkhead part, and the cast CB handle.
I read on some forum page that a certain discontinued ODay model is still being produced in Japan. Makes me wonder. Hawaii is closer to Japan. Also shipping costs to Hawaii, combined with being far from 'mainland' influences, have been known to inspire *creative* alternatives. A little bit like those 'Havana Honeys' (I think they call them)....the old American cars still running around Cuba relying on home made or smuggled parts.
Long ago I saw an old catboat's CB arrangement which was a long rod going thru a slot in the after end of the trunk. It attached to the CB with a pivot so when the board was up the rod would lay down flat on top of trunk. It had a hardwood handle which capped the slot when board was all the way down. For pinning the board at various positions, the trunk had a hole high and aft, while the board had maybe three holes. Unless the board was all up or all down, the rod stood over the trunk while underway. Mainsheet was far enough aft to avoid tangling with rod.
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