wind speed

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wind speed

Postby Fly4rfun » Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:50 pm

What is considered to be light winds, forecast (windy.com) for 6-9 kt tomorrow, Sat 2-3kt. my thinking 6-9 might be a bit much for me? Sat looking the best. found a printable description on google.
https://www.weather.gov/pqr/beaufort
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Re: wind speed

Postby GreenLake » Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:55 am

6-9 is usually the sweet spot for the DS. It really moves w/o being overpowered.

2-3kt, if real, is when you drift around.

Now, in terms of overpowered, you care more about the gusts than the steady winds. Both ECMWF and NAM models show gusts in the 20s for your area tomorrow. ECMWF is usually a bit more aggressive in forecasting gusts; let's say, most of the time, if I look at actual readings from a weather station nearby I don't see gusts of that magnitude. However, like a rogue wave, I guess there could be one somewhere in the area. NAM tends to show numbers more in line (for gusts) with what I experience. Now, ECMWF may show slightly higher sustained wind some day, and sometimes that seems more correct. (But I may be sailing in places where the wind funnels; your lake: do the trees block a lot of wind?).

You should look at the water, if you see "angry" dark patches scootching over the water, those are strong gusts. You won't see whitecaps on a small lake, so hard to guess from that. If you have wind that "shakes" trees, or good parts of them, in the gust, esp. if no leaves, you may have more wind than you like. Paper or leaves being blown about is > 11 kt.

Or have someone give you an handheld anemometer for Christmas. :)
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Re: wind speed

Postby GreenLake » Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:59 am

Generally, you like to sail when the little waves no longer look glassy, but start turning dark a bit (but w/o showing whitecaps - which, however, require a bit to build up, so on a small lake you may never see them). On a slightly larger lake, the water may look rougher at the downwind end, again, because the wind had enough time to act on the water. Once you get to about a mile of fetch, wave state is a reasonably good indicator of wind speeds for the kinds of wind speeds we like to sail in. For real storms, it may take miles of open water for the maximum size waves for that wind speed to actually form. (For example, waves that would be big enough to be breaking on the ocean, might not form, let alone break, on a lake, other than the big lakes).
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Re: wind speed

Postby Fly4rfun » Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:02 am

As always appreciate the information
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