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I found it extremely helpfull to see everyones' line layouts. So I thought I'd share mine. I am not a big time racer but love to have everything simple. I also single hand most of the time so this layout shows easy stuff. Pulling up halyards or pulling in barber haulers is a must for simple sailing. Usually I sit beside the trunk except when hiked out.

I learned in a daysailer many years ago but moved on to a cataline 22 and many other small boats. Simplicity is most important. Now that I am back to my retirement boat, a ds 1, the mast must be easy to set up and the lines easy to control.

boat #113, sail # 178

http://lakeyosemite.com/cleats72.jpeg

The picture is at http://lakeyosemite.com/cleats72.jpg
sorry.

I recently bought a DS 1 with a Proctor Mast and internal halyards. The boat had most of the cleats (and most everything else) removed and I'm trying to figure out how to setup the halyard cleats. Specifically, what type of cleats do most of you guys use and where are they located.

Thanks,
Chris

Hi Chris,
I have a proctor mast on my DSII and my halyards come out of the mast at sheaves right above the deck- running directly to some Harken 150 cam cleats on risers. The cleats are right on the cuddy top where the old horn cleats were, and similar in configuration to the picture posted in this thread. I also have an outhaul that comes off of the forward end of the boom, and goes to a harken micro carbo cleat that is on a riser in between the halyard cleats (in the same place that the vang cleat is in the picture in this thread).

I'd like to put some halyard tensioners on the boat for maximum crankage, but the internal halyards make this a bit more difficult. I'd be interested to see how others have done that with these proctor masts.
-Nate

Hi Nate,

My mast has a 3 sheave heel plug and the halyards come out at the base of the mast. It looks like there may have been a couple of cleats on the thwarts, either top or bottom (not sure).

I was thinking of attaching cam cleats to the sides of the CB box or just in front if the box, but would like to hear how others have their boats rigged.

Chris

My mast is a proctor mast but I did not want to lift and place it in the opening. Seems a lot of cuddys have been damaged by this process, this one included. So I bought the hinge so I can lift it as I once did with a ds 2. It is much easier for me in my "no longer spry" years. I also went away from the internal halyards and put them outside. That was fun to create my own sheeve that went through the mast. Works great.

I thought that people were moving their jib cleats back to the centerboard trunk so that they didn't have to lean forward to uncleat when they're single handing.

The pictured set up moves the jib cleat onto the cuddy. Now I can understand that if your sailing position is sitting close to centerboard trunk, like the original poster said. But don't most people sit at the aft end of the cockpit right next to the transom?

Next time I single hand I'll definitely try moving up a few feet. I think you'd need to use your tiller extension even more.

Cheers

The cleats shown are for halyards so I can raise and lower the sails from the cockpit. Works great. I have used this arrangement for over 25 years since I single hand most of the time.
The jib sheets I moved off the trunk onto the thwarts (those little seats that attach to the trunk. I find that 3 inches off I can keep my lines neater and can still reach them very easily. Then the barber haulers are a short grab as shown in the picture.
I have my hexratchet attached on top of the trunk to the aft end. However, I did not put it down above the cleat. I also have it attached to the boom at the midway point, not using the old, tried-and-true stern mounted- end of boom, traveler the boat was designed to use. I don't sail in anything over 20 mph so there is little fear of spilling air from the sail at the aft end.
http://lakeyosemite.com/mainsheet.jpg

kellyima wrote: But don't most people sit at the aft end of the cockpit right next to the transom?

Not unless going dead downwind in a blow. Usually you need to keep the crew weight forward to keep the boat level fore and aft.

(As others have said, the cleats in question are for halyards, not sheets.)